Rien que l'aspect me donnais envie, mais ton retour est clair et précis et rassure sur la qualité du produit. Quand j'aurai les moyens....😛
Mais je viens d'investir dans un châssis profilé alu. Alors ça va attendre.
COM - Pédalier MECA EVO1 Hydraulique
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Hello !
So after spending enough time riding the hydraulic Meca EVO1, I think I'm able to do a little feedback, let's go, in stages
:Website and delivery (it starts there already
)On the "sale" side, for my part, I already find the Meca site ( https://mecasimhardware.com/fr/ ) very well done, a few display bugs here and there, however.
The site is modern and pleasant to look at, the products are easy to find and each product is perfectly described.
We know exactly what the packages will contain, so no surprises when unpacking...On the other hand, in terms of finding the SW to configure the pedals, there is a little hiccup, when the site is displayed in French, it is impossible to find the correct version of the software corresponding to the MECA EVO1! On the other hand, by switching to English, the correct version appears.
It may have since been corrected but at the time I wondered what I had missed...
Payment by paypal is accepted.
On the delivery side, on the other hand, it will be more difficult for me to judge, I ordered the crankset on the very first batch, so there was a delay of about a month, but for a first draft I don't find it outrageous in the end, and once the crankset was shipped I must have received it in 3 working days with UPS.
Packaging
On the packaging side, you will see the photos on page 1 of the thread, clearly there is a little disappointment, as much as I find that the crankset is of superb manufacturing quality, the packaging does not do it justice at all.
Everything is well kept and protected, that's not the problem, but I think it lacks this high-end side!
Afterwards, if that allows them to pull the price down a little more why not, but hey, we want to have our eyes full and it's not on the packaging that it happens
(afterwards for what is content is another story ^^)Installation HW+SW
The assembly of the crankset is child's play, everything is fine on the drilling side for example. Each element finds its place without difficulty, nothing to say at this level. The assemblies seem well designed, on most of the bolts there is a stack of an aluminum washer (for the efforts I imagine), and a plastic washer (to dampen the vibrations I imagine?).
Note however that some screws / bolts were slightly loose! So still quickly check the assemblies to be sure.
Since then, nothing has changed!
And so in terms of perceived quality, that's really where Meca is strong I think, the crankset is just magnificent, in my opinion some IRL competition cranksets are not as qualitative. The black coating that serves as a finish seems impossible to wear or scratch, and makes a superb effect.
The pads of the pedals are also very well finished, ditto for the receiver (of their own design by the way) in short, nothing to say, there we can clearly see that we are on a high-end pedalboard!
SW side (once it found on the site so), it's correct I would say, simple enough to easily find what you need.
But some things did not transcend me, such as having to recalibrate the 3 pedals each time instead of being able to do it independently.And when saving/loading a calibration, there is no pop-up type message to notify the user that his action has been taken into account. There when we click on save or load, since we have no feedback we remain a little in doubt as to whether it has been applied or not.
Another point, it seems that you have to launch the software before each session, otherwise the pedals are not recognized in the game. Not dramatic, that said, but if I could do without it, it wouldn't be so bad!
Also, I have random clutch "disconnects". That is to say that sometimes, I can launch the software before the game. The brake and the accelerator work, but not the clutch.
I then have to restart the PC and/or redo a calibration to find it, which is still annoying when it happens, although it's still quite infrequent (and I don't use the clutch so often, no more).
Clutch
Well, let's talk about the clutch ^^! First clutch of this type for me! And I must say that I am very satisfied! At least the pedal is quite credible in its feeling (set to the hardest for me), similar to what I encountered in F4 for example.
After all depends on "where" we position the skating point from a SW point of view, it has its impact.
On the settings side, it offers a lot of combinations, with 4 springs which each have 4 inking positions + the adjustable lever arm. I think it should allow everyone to find happiness.
Brake n
The brake now! Hydraulics, which is therefore in a way the heart of this type of crankset, at least the reason for its purchase very often.
Well again I am very satisfied! With a slight downside that I have already mentioned previously on this thread.
So as far as the feeling is concerned, it's excellent! Coming from a modded TLCM (with polymers), the feeling is both close but at the same time distant
(there you are well advanced!).
What I mean is that on the one hand it's not day and night in the way of braking, I already had a credible feeling with the modded TCLM finally. But on the other hand there is this something in addition to the hydraulics which is difficult to explain, and which makes the brake even more realistic and pleasant.
It's mainly this feeling on release (for me) where you really have something extra, where with simple polymers, on release you always have this somewhat springy effect I found, this is no longer the case and it is extremely pleasant!So there is a downside I said, it's in the possibility of settings. Meca provides a certain number of polymers, but not enough for my taste.
In my case I ride with a black (the most flexible) and a blue (the intermediate), which gives me an average attack I would say and a very firm brake and for once really similar to what I experienced in F4.
On the other hand, I would have preferred to have an even more flexible option to replace the black polymer, in order to have a slightly more flexible attack, while keeping the same hardness in braking.I saw in Laurence Dusoswa's review that Meca had also delivered a second bag of smaller diameter polymers to him, I asked for the same thing so I hope I will be listened to!
Otherwise in terms of adjustment we have:
- Polymer combination of your choice (between black, blue, orange, respectively 70sh, 80sh, 90sh). Which gives the main feeling (attack + brake).
It is even possible to operate with a single polymer, but the stroke is halved as a result:
- Adjusting the preload (via the butterfly screw) which, by bringing the cups closer, reduces the total travel of the brake, and slightly modifies the feeling, especially of the attack, by hardening it).
- Guard to the master cylinder. It is possible to add a little clearance to the master cylinder push rod.
As for the brake stroke, I find it very pleasant, I have the maximum stroke and I find it perfect. But it's still short as a race I think compared to other types of crankset. But I think everyone's tastes vary a lot.
I also think that with a softer black polymer I could slightly reduce the stroke, to see if Meca sends me some :).
However I think that everyone can find his account, we must not forget that we are on a crankset supposed to reproduce the braking of a typical competition car, prototype/GT/single-seater, and this kind of car has very hard brakes with very short strokes!
I made a video to illustrate it:
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.The accelerator
And the last pedal, the accelerator! So most people may think that the accel is nothing very complicated, well, I was amazed by this one!! I was the first to be surprised, but what a treat!! At least as satisfying as the brake.
The throttle is 100% stroke/strength adjustable. And is of a great progressiveness!And with the long plate, the toe heel is very easy. Moreover, the next open on rF2 is in Caterham Academy, manual gearbox in H so for me, and driving the Caterham in these conditions with the Meca EVO1 is a pure delight
!!Price
I got it for 1068€ delivered. And that price, in my experience I think it's excellent value for money!
Conclusion
So in conclusion, awesome!! I expected no less and I'm not disappointed with my purchase, we'll see over time for reliability / durability but I'm not worried.
The pedalboard is magnificent, the most beautiful on the market for me, and the feeling of each pedal is at least very realistic, at best fantastic.
So thank you rMeca for suggesting this crankset, I hope it will delight other RFRO members in the near future
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I think I have gone through the main items but if you have any questions do not hesitate!Hi Agahnim, thank you very much for the review, it made us happy
As for the software, we are currently trying to adjust the things you mentioned, regarding saving etc. It's weird that you have to have the software running when using the pedals, this isn't normally needed.
The polyurethanes that you saw in Laurence's review are for the LC version of the brake, they have a smaller diameter and a hole that unfortunately cannot be fitted to the hydraulic piston rod, as the hole has a smaller diameter. Unfortunately, our supplier does not supply polyurethanes with less softness (sorry for the late response, we discussed this before) so we will try to modify the existing polyurethanes for you by enlarging the center hole, which will remove the material and then soften the segment to suit your needs
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You're welcome ! Hope the translator didn't change the meaning too much, as far as I've checked that's OK but for sure I wouldn't have written this like that in English 😁.
It's weird that you have to have the software running when using the pedals, this isn't normally needed.
Oh ok then I might need to investigate further on this ! By the way it's not that I have to have it running all the time exactly. It's that I need to have launched it at least once before launching the sim. After that I can close it and it is still working.
As i said that's not a big deal, the clutch being not recognized randomly is a bit more anoying I'd say. But still manageable.
I'm glad you're working on improving other aspects
.The polyurethanes that you saw in Laurence's review are for the LC version of the brake, they have a smaller diameter and a hole that unfortunately cannot be fitted to the hydraulic piston rod, as the hole has a smaller diameter. Unfortunately, our supplier does not supply polyurethanes with less softness (sorry for the late response, we discussed this before) so we will try to modify the existing polyurethanes for you by enlarging the center hole, which will remove the material and then soften the segment to suit your needs
Oh OK then I misunderstood! I've seen Laurence unboxing the two bags of polyurethane from the same box so I thought it was for the hydraulic version. And I didn't noticed the inner diameter was smaller in fact.
My bad!
To be honest I don't know if this worth extra efforts by machining just for me
. As i said even with the current setup I'm enjoying de break. I'm taking about nice to have really.If you can do it on a larger scale maybe that would be great otherwise I'd be a bit ashamed that you do it only for me or only a few people.
However I could try also to find softer polyurethane from another supplier, the only specs mandatory are height and inner diameter I think.
Nevertheless thanks a lot again for bringing this masterpiece to the market
.It will for sure remain on my rig for quite a time (unless you come with a breakthrough innovation in the future 😇).
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Hello rMeca
I'm interested in your pedals and I have a question about a software evolution. Is it possible to have something like what Heusinkveld is preparing with its SmartControl Live?
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Bonjour la team !
Bon ben voilà pour ma part je suis pas content du produits !
Alors outre il es vrai le packaging , fort deçu aussi malgré que toute étais bien tenue !
Mais pour le prix payer un peu de couleur aurais été bien !
Si non oui le produit respire la qualité , mais toute fois moi je déchante car le pédale de freins à un soucie !
J'ai déjà écrit au service client , mais il ne m'on pas apporté la réponse : juste me dire c'est normal que votre pédale es dur , c'est du costaux vous pouvez y aller !!!
Mais bon comme je dis , je pense et je suis pas ingénieur , mais quand on freine oui la pédale s'enfonce mais pour moi ne revient pas à sa course initiale ou point mort .
Ensuite bon on change les polymères pour voir quoi , déjà l'écrou papillon étais dur à enlever , et une fois désoladirisé la tige es rentré d'elle même vers le bas !!!
Et à présent je ne sais plus mettre qu'un seul manchon
Donc ma question ? en à t'il un parmit vous qui s'y connaisse en hydraulique , car j'ai pas envie de tester pour voir !! quand je connais pas , suis du genre à touche pas à cela petit con
Et à t'il quelqu'un qui aurais eu le mm soucie ??? -
Faudrait être plus précis
C'est quoi le soucis déjà ? La pédale qui ne revient pas à sa position initiale ? Ou un problème hydraulique ?
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Ici elle rentre tellement que je ne sais plus mettre qu'un seul manchon en polymère
Et j'ai fait pareil avec l'écrous papillion et faire levier et tiré , mais dès que ma force es arrêter , il repart aspiré vers le bas !
Je suis nullement ingénieur , mais bon pour moi quand on freine cela fait le taff mais trop je dirais car elle revient pas à son
point initiale !
Donc le soucie ?? es que je ne sais quoi faire , est ce la tige ou le système hydraulique la panne , j'ai écrit à Meca mais j'attends toujours réponse !
Perso je pense qu'il va valoir faire un appel d'air ou autre pour relacher cette pression constante , ou bien la renvoyer pour un autre soucie !!
Ah oui quand je suis dans Diview ma pédale de freins es déjà en action , elle est dans les 6400 /6500 sur la ligne de force de diview ! -
Ah oui quand je suis dans Diview ma pédale de freins es déjà en action , elle est dans les 6400 /6500 sur la ligne de force de diview !Donc elle est actionné en permanence ?
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J'ai envoyer des photos à Meca oui , et traduits mon français en anglais !
Et pour en répondre , depuis le début la pédale es dur , non TRES DUR ! , donc on à laisser comme cela et tester en jeux !
c'était juste impossible , donc ben on change les polymères , j'ai d'abord mis orange et orange et toujours le même problème de dureté de la pédale !
de la , on a voulu mettre orange et bleu et c'est la au dévisage de l'écrou papillion , que la tige es rentré encore et encore vers le bas , comme aspiré !
on à bien tenter de remettre l'écrou et faire contre force , et oui la tige remonte , mais redescen toute aussi vite une fois la pressions lâcher ...
Comme ai dis je ne suis pas ingénieur , mais pour moi le système pompe mais fait pas la déconpression ensuite et reste en action de freins !
Je vais attendre la réponse de méca , et au pire si rien de leurs coté , j'irais voir un mécano dans un garage alors , il y a surement une pipette ou autre pour lâcher la compression ou autre ! ...
Car un ami me dis d'ouvrir le capuchon du reservoir , mais bon de faite est ce la bonne manip , et puis je risque aussi de faire rentré de l'air dans le système , ce qui m'avancerais pas plus non plus !
En somme je comparerais mon soucie comme sur une vrai voiture , quand le maître cylindre du circuit déconne et que la pédales devient de plus en plus dur , ben c'est le phénomène que j'ai eu ici sur le freinds du pédalier ! , elle es devenu de plus en plus dur ( sur le kkl pompage de fait )
Merci en tout cas de vos réponses , la j'attends réponse de Meca -
Réponse du service client de Meca : en résumer mettre le papillon et tiré !!!
on va retester cela en soirée alors mais bon j'ai peur de casser ou autre
réponse de meca si non pour le suivie Avez-vous appuyé sur la pédale de frein alors qu'il n'y avait pas de polyuréthanes?
Il semble que la tige soit trop enfoncée dans le cylindre.
Il n'est pas recommandé de le faire.
Essayez de tirer la tige vers le haut à l'aide de l'écrou qui se trouve sur la tige. Ensuite, il devrait monter plus haut et vous pourrez y mettre plus de polyuréthanes.
mais bon ici aussi vous m'avez pausser la question mais vous assures la tige es descende underground d'elle même !!!
on va donc tiré dessus ( sans mauvaise penser bien sur
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Avez-vous appuyé sur la pédale de frein alors qu'il n'y avait pas de polyuréthanes?
Il semble que la tige soit trop enfoncée dans le cylindre.
Il n'est pas recommandé de le faire
Bon c'est bon je peux faire le SAV Méca alors
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Bon le suivie , ben rien j'ai beau tiré et tiré , à m'être fais mal à une vieille coté cassé !
j'ai tenter le système Ddddd avec levier , pas une once de mouvement !
Pour moi ce pédalier , enfin ce freins à un soucie , bon c'est mon premier de grande classe mais pas le premier non plus et dès le début le faite de cette dureté ct juste pas normal
enfin mail de fait à SAV de Meca ( Agahnim90 ) s'il t'envoie une copie c pas moi hein
hé on va voir ce qu'il répondeeeee ! , ici vu la coquète somme débourser ( car j'ai prit le pack pédalier shifteur et freinds à mains ) , leurs ai demander un envoie d'échange standard !!!!!! , pas encore envie d'attendre plus !!!!! je veux playyyy !!!! -
Voilà , la pédale de freins , par enfin demain sous plis postale au SAV , mais bon j'ai du tout de même un peu les menacers
Je pense que le Service Client es pas encore leurs priorité , ou qu'il en on un !
on va voir la suite , maintentant , je suis parti pour je pense entre 2 et 4 semaines -
Au moins tu pourras nous faire un retour sur le SAV
(j’essaie de voir le point positif de l'affaire )
